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Whats the best Stand alone DVD Recorder
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JimboSlim
2004-10-04 19:59:06 UTC
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Hi there DVDers

I want to by a set top box stand alone DVD / Hard Disk recorder (Does not
have anything to do with a PC ie goes with your tele (TV if you are
American).

I want it to replace an aged VCR . I want it to be all singing all dancing
ie.

I want to have video plus (Most Important as her indoors might use it), A
big Hard disk, burn every type of format +- ram rom you name it.
I want it to read & write DIVx Xdiv Mp3 Mp4 Mp5 and every Mp there is Viw
Wav PM3 WMA WMB WMC CD-Video, S-Video, JPEG, MPEG-1,Pictrue CD, DivX
3.11, DivX 4.x, DivX 5.x, Xvid all in there + & - versions obviously.
CD-DA,MP3,Dolby Digital,
we haven't got enough of these have we.
Most people's grannies say you cant have everything in life but what comes
closeest?
Basically is there a DVD recorder on the market that does almost every
thing? & plugs into a TV set ?
If not what comes closest?

Thanx JIMBo
Cymbal Man Freq.
2004-10-05 06:57:56 UTC
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Check out the Philips line.

Most everything else is deficient pertaining to your specs.

You only get an hour or two of good quality video on a DVD 4.7GB disk anyway.
Editing out the commercials is still a chore to be abhored. The hard disk (80GB)
will give you 17 to 34 hours worth of recording at the 1-2 hour per disk
sampling rates. This is great if you want to record shows but you are sure you
don't want all the extra vhs tapes cluttering up your abode. If you want to
transfer hundreds of 6-8 hour vhs tapes to DVD, I'd wait until the mega-disk
blu-ray technology comes out 5-10 years from now; and save the wear & tear on
your last vcr by using the hard drive/DVD recorder.

When do DVD-R disks magically disappear from the market anyway?
Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)
2004-10-05 10:06:33 UTC
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Panasonic E85 works a charm for me
SalesMart.com.au
2004-10-05 15:46:34 UTC
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On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:59:06 GMT, "JimboSlim"
Post by JimboSlim
Hi there DVDers
I want to by a set top box stand alone DVD / Hard Disk recorder (Does not
have anything to do with a PC ie goes with your tele (TV if you are
American).
I want it to replace an aged VCR . I want it to be all singing all dancing
ie.
I want to have video plus (Most Important as her indoors might use it), A
big Hard disk, burn every type of format +- ram rom you name it.
I want it to read & write DIVx Xdiv Mp3 Mp4 Mp5 and every Mp there is Viw
Wav PM3 WMA WMB WMC CD-Video, S-Video, JPEG, MPEG-1,Pictrue CD, DivX
3.11, DivX 4.x, DivX 5.x, Xvid all in there + & - versions obviously.
CD-DA,MP3,Dolby Digital,
we haven't got enough of these have we.
Most people's grannies say you cant have everything in life but what comes
closeest?
Basically is there a DVD recorder on the market that does almost every
thing? & plugs into a TV set ?
If not what comes closest?
No not yet.

I find the Panasonic DMR Recorders do the best video recording where
the play back is fantastic. The Panasonic DMR Recorders burn to DVD-R
and DVD-RAM and will play DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD-RAM media amd some
later models will play back DVD+R/+RW media.

These Panasonic DMR Recorders vary between countries.
The Australian and UK models often have a smaller hard drive where the
Japan/US models have a bigger hard drive.

Panasonic DMR-E85 and E100H
AUS/UK - 80Gb Hard Drive and PAL / NTSC.
US/Japan - 120Gb hard drive and NTSC.

The JVC Recorders will record two shows at the same time onto the
160Gb hard drive. These record to DVD-R/-RW/-RAM.

I prefer Panasonic DR Recorders myself. I use a Panasonic DMR-E30 DVD
Recorder which I bought in April of 2003 and have given it a very good
working over since last year.

With either the JVC or Panasonic DMR Recorder you can upload the
DVD-RAM media to the PC assuming you own a ROM drive that will read to
DVD-RAM media and then edit out the ads or create your own fancy menus
which quite a few do. I prefer just to burn to DVD-R as all I am after
is the video to DVD-R.

Stongly advise you go and look at the various models in action and
then decide which one best suits your purposes.

The Panasonics and some other recorders have time slip which means you
can be recording and while it is recording you can watch the begining
of the DVD. I've never used this feature myself but others do.

The chapter points are every 5 minutes give or take a few seconds on
the Panasonic DMR Recorders. They also have a flexable recording mode
so if a video clip is 95 minutes you can set it for that length and it
will record to DVD in the best possible picture format.

Some stores it is possible to hire these DVD recorders out. If still
unsure maybe a idea to hire one out for a week to do test burns or ask
the local dealer for a sample so you can play it back in your home DVD
player.

There are many brands of DVD recorders out there to try before buying.

Good Luck...........

SalesMart.com.au
Perth, Western Australia
http://www.salesmart.com.au
Email Contact info on the above site.
Jon Purkey
2004-10-05 16:19:35 UTC
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Post by SalesMart.com.au
I find the Panasonic DMR Recorders do the best video recording where
the play back is fantastic. The Panasonic DMR Recorders burn to DVD-R
and DVD-RAM and will play DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD-RAM media amd some
later models will play back DVD+R/+RW media.
Are you sure about them being able to play DVD-RW? I recently
purchased the DMR-E75V (VCR/DVD Recorder combo) and according to the
manual it can not read DVD-RW disks, though it can read CD-RW. Also,
the technical data for the DMR-E85 at Amazon does not list DVD-RW
under playback formats.
Post by SalesMart.com.au
With either the JVC or Panasonic DMR Recorder you can upload the
DVD-RAM media to the PC assuming you own a ROM drive that will read to
DVD-RAM media and then edit out the ads or create your own fancy menus
which quite a few do. I prefer just to burn to DVD-R as all I am after
is the video to DVD-R.
The DMR-E75V, and I assume other Panasonic recorders as well, does not
do a bad job of editing out commercials, although it can be slow if
you try and get it to the exact frame. I mainly use the feature for
making room on the disc so it doesn't take that long.
Post by SalesMart.com.au
The Panasonics and some other recorders have time slip which means you
can be recording and while it is recording you can watch the begining
of the DVD. I've never used this feature myself but others do.
I actually chose the Panasonic over other models because of the Time
Slip feature. I love it. It's great being able to watch one show while
recording another or start watching the show that is being recorded
before it has finished. I even use it to pause live TV, similar to a
DVR.


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luminos
2004-10-05 20:38:30 UTC
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Post by Jon Purkey
I actually chose the Panasonic over other models because of the Time
Slip feature. I love it. It's great being able to watch one show while
recording another or start watching the show that is being recorded
before it has finished. I even use it to pause live TV, similar to a
DVR.
The Pioneer 200 series can do this with DVD-RW. My Panasonic E-50 only
lasted 13 months before dying.
Camper
2004-10-06 10:03:26 UTC
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Post by SalesMart.com.au
Post by SalesMart.com.au
I prefer Panasonic DR Recorders myself. I use a Panasonic DMR-E30 DVD
Recorder which I bought in April of 2003 and have given it a very good
working over since last year.
With either the JVC or Panasonic DMR Recorder you can upload the
DVD-RAM media to the PC assuming you own a ROM drive that will read to
DVD-RAM media and then edit out the ads or create your own fancy menus
which quite a few do. I prefer just to burn to DVD-R as all I am after
is the video to DVD-R.
Stongly advise you go and look at the various models in action and
then decide which one best suits your purposes.
The Panasonics and some other recorders have time slip which means you
can be recording and while it is recording you can watch the begining
of the DVD. I've never used this feature myself but others do.
The chapter points are every 5 minutes give or take a few seconds on
the Panasonic DMR Recorders. They also have a flexable recording mode
so if a video clip is 95 minutes you can set it for that length and it
will record to DVD in the best possible picture format.
Some stores it is possible to hire these DVD recorders out. If still
unsure maybe a idea to hire one out for a week to do test burns or ask
the local dealer for a sample so you can play it back in your home DVD
player.
There are many brands of DVD recorders out there to try before buying.
Good Luck...........
SalesMart.com.au
Perth, Western Australia
I am afraid that I have trouble taking anyone serious who to date just uses
these newsgroups for their SPAM!
sw
2004-10-08 16:35:40 UTC
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Post by Camper
Post by SalesMart.com.au
Post by SalesMart.com.au
I prefer Panasonic DR Recorders myself. I use a Panasonic DMR-E30 DVD
Recorder which I bought in April of 2003 and have given it a very good
working over since last year.
With either the JVC or Panasonic DMR Recorder you can upload the
DVD-RAM media to the PC assuming you own a ROM drive that will read to
DVD-RAM media and then edit out the ads or create your own fancy menus
which quite a few do. I prefer just to burn to DVD-R as all I am after
is the video to DVD-R.
Stongly advise you go and look at the various models in action and
then decide which one best suits your purposes.
The Panasonics and some other recorders have time slip which means you
can be recording and while it is recording you can watch the begining
of the DVD. I've never used this feature myself but others do.
The chapter points are every 5 minutes give or take a few seconds on
the Panasonic DMR Recorders. They also have a flexable recording mode
so if a video clip is 95 minutes you can set it for that length and it
will record to DVD in the best possible picture format.
Some stores it is possible to hire these DVD recorders out. If still
unsure maybe a idea to hire one out for a week to do test burns or ask
the local dealer for a sample so you can play it back in your home DVD
player.
There are many brands of DVD recorders out there to try before buying.
Good Luck...........
SalesMart.com.au
Perth, Western Australia
I am afraid that I have trouble taking anyone serious who to date just uses
these newsgroups for their SPAM!
Salesmart does NOTsell recorders and they are not pushing anything
just giving good advice.

I buy their media after giving advice in aus.dvd on which recorder to
buy. I contacted Colin at salesmart and he gave me a run down on which
recorder to buy and why and gave me a list of stores to buy from
because they do not sell recorders.

I don't see them as spam, just giving free advice on their experience
with dvd recorders.

I bought a panasonic e55 after buying a liteon on which I was not
happy with. Saw a post on another a few months back on recorders then
bought a e55 after colins posts.

David Chien
2004-10-07 22:34:22 UTC
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No recorder on the planet does the MPEG-4/DIVX variety of files yet.

Almost all of the good ones will do the usual DVD/CD/MP3/JPEG/VCD/SVCD.

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Otherwise? Two decks. The Philips DVP642 which plays just about
everything except the WM variants (are there really people still using
WM instead of MPEG-4/DIVX/XVID?!?) cheap at $70 walmart.com + the $150
cheap DVD recorder they got at Walmart.com as well.

Not too much money spent (since we all know the 'ultimate' deck will
arrive soon), and works fine.
SalesMart.com.au
2004-10-06 06:18:30 UTC
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Post by Jon Purkey
Post by SalesMart.com.au
I find the Panasonic DMR Recorders do the best video recording where
the play back is fantastic. The Panasonic DMR Recorders burn to DVD-R
and DVD-RAM and will play DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD-RAM media amd some
later models will play back DVD+R/+RW media.
Are you sure about them being able to play DVD-RW? I recently
purchased the DMR-E75V (VCR/DVD Recorder combo) and according to the
manual it can not read DVD-RW disks, though it can read CD-RW. Also,
the technical data for the DMR-E85 at Amazon does not list DVD-RW
under playback formats.
My Panasonic DMR-E30 DVD Recorder will play DVD-RW media and I know a
few others have used DVD-RW in various DMR Recorders.

My Panasonic DMR-E30 recorder won't detect a DVD+R or DVD+RW disc
though. Later Panasonic DMR-E85 and E100 models will play DVD+R/+RW
media.
Post by Jon Purkey
Post by SalesMart.com.au
With either the JVC or Panasonic DMR Recorder you can upload the
DVD-RAM media to the PC assuming you own a ROM drive that will read to
DVD-RAM media and then edit out the ads or create your own fancy menus
which quite a few do. I prefer just to burn to DVD-R as all I am after
is the video to DVD-R.
The DMR-E75V, and I assume other Panasonic recorders as well, does not
do a bad job of editing out commercials, although it can be slow if
you try and get it to the exact frame. I mainly use the feature for
making room on the disc so it doesn't take that long.
DVD Author is a lot faster on the PC.
I go from VHS to DVD-R using flexable record mode and if there are ads
an dif I want to chop then out then I will use DVD Author which is
rare.
Post by Jon Purkey
Post by SalesMart.com.au
The Panasonics and some other recorders have time slip which means you
can be recording and while it is recording you can watch the begining
of the DVD. I've never used this feature myself but others do.
I actually chose the Panasonic over other models because of the Time
Slip feature. I love it. It's great being able to watch one show while
recording another or start watching the show that is being recorded
before it has finished. I even use it to pause live TV, similar to a
DVR.
Quite a few of my customers use time slip. Not ever used it myself as
i only ever go from VHS to DVD-R this way I can edit out ads on the
VCR and then burn to DVD-R later if I want to keep it.

I've recorded over 2000 DVD-R through my E30 recorder now.
Just a brilliant model recorder and does what I want. If it was to
ever fail I'd get the E85 model. The longer I wait the cheaper they'll
get. When they come down to about $500 AUS then I may get what ever
model with hard drive is available.

Panasonic DMR-E700 Blu Ray recorders look like they'll be the future
but will be a few years before they are affordable.

SalesMart.com.au
Perth, Western Australia
http://www.salesmart.com.au
Email Contact info on the above site.
Jon Purkey
2004-10-06 18:12:01 UTC
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Post by SalesMart.com.au
My Panasonic DMR-E30 DVD Recorder will play DVD-RW media and I know a
few others have used DVD-RW in various DMR Recorders.
My Panasonic DMR-E30 recorder won't detect a DVD+R or DVD+RW disc
though. Later Panasonic DMR-E85 and E100 models will play DVD+R/+RW
media.
Guess I won't know until I try, but the manual for my DMR-E75VS lists
DVD-RW +RW and +R under discs that cannot be played. Also, the manual
(downloaded from Amazon.com) for the DMR-E85HS also lists DVD-RW, +R
+RW among the discs that cannot be played. Seems odd that Panasonic
would chose to do away with -RW support, unless they are trying to
push the -RAM format?
Post by SalesMart.com.au
DVD Author is a lot faster on the PC.
I go from VHS to DVD-R using flexable record mode and if there are ads
an dif I want to chop then out then I will use DVD Author which is
rare.
Don't you lose resolution recording to VHS first? I thought VHS was
only 200 lines while SP mode on DVD is 400?

I do not have a PC DVD burner yet, so my options are limited. For Time
Shifting I do use DVD-RAM, but for shows that I want to keep I will
probably record directly to DVD-R in SP mode. I may try recording to
VHS first and see what it looks like in comparison. I have copied a
couple previously recorded programs from VHS to DVD and the DMR-E75
does make it easy to cleanly edit out the commercials.


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